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mam

Going to "My Account" and then "Show your posts" here on the forum yields no results ("No suitable matches were found."). Has it been like that for long, and/or should I expect it to work?

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Another company led by the Jamiesons: Stillman was President and Samuel was Secretary of the company "D. H. Champlin & Co." and may even have cofounded it in 1902. Also, Stillman B. Jamieson was president of the "Green May Medicine Company" and president and secretary of the...

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Hey all, did we already know that there was an "S. W. Drake"? This name is listed as secretary of Frederick J. Drake & Co in the Certified List of Domestic and Foreign Corporations for the year 1922:

mam

Another company led by the Jamiesons: Stillman was President and Samuel was Secretary of the company "D. H. Champlin & Co." and may even have cofounded it in 1902.

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Some hotel owners were Hiram Wells, James M. Andrews, Louisville Syndicate, John T. Stout, Amos Stout, James Braden, George W. Campbell, Elvet B. Rhodes, Capt. John C. Howard, Dr. John L. Howard, Lee W. Sinclair, Thomas Taggart and the great Edward Ballard. Some of the other casino owners were Bled...

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I've started doing some background on Jamieson-Higgins, and while I know others are as well, I thought I'd post what I come up with here. One starting point is this notice about what eventually becomes the bankruptcy of the firm. The typed out text is as follows: RECEIVER FOR PRINTING FIRM. Jamieson...

mam

Richard Hatch wrote:That is the date given in the 1900 Census for him. I believe passport applications are also available which likely give a more specific date, but I don't have access to those.

It turns out the passport application says August 3, 1880.

mam

Scott, I'm having a very hard time making anything out of the materials on your website. It's an enormous collection of notes of mostly people that seem to have no connection to the Erdnase case. Frederick J. Drake and a couple of others are mentioned, but most of it is about their various ancestors...

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[…] I strongly believe that S. W. Jamieson filled out the copyright application for Erdnase. He was a co-founder and treasurer of Jamieson-Higgins, not an employee of McKinney, and probably too young himself to have been the author. I have August 1881 as his birth, is that what you have found as we...

mam

Which brings to mind something I'm sure there are a couple of easy answers to: How do we know that McKinney/Jamieson-Higgins did not pay Erdnase for writing the book? Other than it saying self-published on the title page? That is one way to cover any connection between your respectable publishing/pr...

mam

Did anyone read Jack Pots by Eugene Edwards? It's been mentioned by title here in the thread, but no references to its content. The book was published in 1900 by Jamieson-Higgins, and we know now that they and James McKinney & Co. were tightly intertwined. Chapter 12 ("Crooked Gambling"...

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I'm trying to assemble a better picture of the James McKinney operation. These are the titles I have found that were printed by McKinney, based on the bankruptcy files: Books printed by James McKinney for Jamieson-Higgins: A Round Robin - Stories for Children by Mary Hartwell Catherwood Dickens’ Chr...

mam

If I wanted to examine printing errors in the first edition, what are my options?

(Ideally that would be looking at an actual first edition, but I don't have access to one.)

mam

Did we already know that James McKinney lived at 520 McLean Avenue? Yes, from Chicago directory and census records. He is listed at 520 McLean in the directories from 1893 through 1905. The 1908 directory has the home address as 526 McLean, possibly a typo. The 1910 Census lists his home as 3639 Mc...

mam

Did we already know that James McKinney lived at 520 McLean Avenue?

mam

I've posted a number of video clips from magic history, at least some of which I have not seen on YouTube before. They are all narrated in Swedish, with a rough translation in the video description: Dai Vernon - The Cone and Ball https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9PREEw5ts Howard Thurston - Levitati...

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Tom Sawyer wrote:Concerning the asserted confiscation of plates, this was discussed at some length on this thread back in 2011.

Still reading up on all these years of thread, sorry for the noise, will come back to this point when I've read those parts.

mam

Were any permanent plates produced? Where did they end up after McKinney's bankruptcy? According to TMWWE (page 77) there were stereotypes and it was these that were transferred: ⋅ Plates and printed copies brought by Erdnase from McKinney to Drake in 1903. ⋅ Plates sold (by Dra...

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By the way, Philip Ruxton's company sure knew how to write ad copy

mam

I have been thinking about the original manuscript and through what hands it must have passed. To begin with, Erdnase authored the manuscript either literally (i.e. by hand) or typed it. To have it printed, it was handed over to James McKinney and company. If this happened in person, Erdnase visited...

mam

Is anyone interested in this entire thread as a pdf and/or Kindle compatible file? I decided I want to read it all, from the start, and wanted a better (and offline) format so I did a quick and dirty conversion. It's about 700 pages. Given of course I'm not breaking any rules by doing so, I'd be ha...

mam

Is anyone interested in this entire thread as a pdf and/or Kindle compatible file? I decided I want to read it all, from the start, and wanted a better (and offline) format so I did a quick and dirty conversion. It's about 700 pages. Given of course I'm not breaking any rules by doing so, I'd be hap...

mam

If that entry in the McKinney Files really was Emory Cobb Andrews then it would be a surprise, given his background and employment up to that point. […] Thanks for all the additional information, you had more facts than I. Would you mind sharing the sources? I have the university info already, and ...

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There's been a lot of information (all interesting) about Emory Cobb Andrews posted lately. I've posted some of it myself. But no one here thinks he had anything to do with the writing, printing or publishing of Expert at the Card Table , do they? Not yet, at all, but for some reason I find him int...

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I have seen no evidence that Emory Cobb Andrews ever worked for a "printing house". He worked for Philip Ruxton Inks - a manufacturer of printing inks - and Ruxton's was listed seperately as a creditor in the McKinney Bankruptcy Files. So please tell me why you are saying that McKinney wo...

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Hey all, I'm thinking about starting to put together a central repository of information/data/materials for everything related to Erdnase. It would basically be a page/website with all the people, locations, dates, etc. with links to documents, photos and so on, as well as all verified facts includi...

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Here is the same picture, in the context of the play from which it was taken "The Deceitful Dean." Andrews makes a better looking girl than some of his classmates. He is very good looking in that picture. I'm currently trying to figure out who wrote this piece , as it uses the word "...

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Interesting to note about Emory Cobb Andrews is that he did a lot of things: photography, etchings, played the mandolin, banjo and clarinet, and led the university orchestra, wrote plays and acted in them, editor on the yearbook, etc. as well of course being an expert chemist and skilled enough in t...

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I found this photo of Emory Cobb Andrews: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3077069/emory-cobb-andrews/05.jpg It's from the playbook of the musical comedy "The academic alchemist" . Looking at that photo, I've come to the conclusion that these photos are of Andrews as well: https://dl.dr...

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I'm trying to find a photo of Emory Cobb Andrews. There definitely is one in the Cap and Gown yearbooks from the University of Chicago, since he was member of a lot of clubs and many of them have group photos in there. But it's sometimes a bit hard to make out facial features from low-res scans of r...

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Yes, this misses what I believe to be the most important occurrence of "Andrews" in the bankruptcy files, from which all the above follow. It doesn't show up in OCR searches, alas. It is on p. 627 of the lybrary PDF. I would characterize it as "E. ? Andrews" where the middle ini...

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The name "E.C. Andrews" appears several times in those Files but there is absolutely no evidence that it was Emory Cobb Andrews. But very, very, very, very likely. Please explain why you wrote that. Because I find it very, very, very, very likely that one "E. C. Andrews" found i...

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(Which has more or less already been done, I realize when reading the Genii article from 2000.)

mam

I guess one could also look up in "Estimating for printers" by Gallaway roughly how much time would be needed to prepare the entire book for print from manuscript and illustrations, i.e. when the drawings would have to be done at the latest for the book to realistically be done in time for...

mam

To what accuracy do we know the date of M. D. Smith's meeting with Erdnase at the hotel?

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Bill Mullins wrote:Note that one of the professors at the Univ of Chicago at this time was Robert Andrews Millikan, whose name has previously been associated with Erdnase.

I love that the referenced piece on Wikipedia was added on April Fools' Day in 2006.

mam

Zenner wrote:The name "E.C. Andrews" appears several times in those Files but there is absolutely no evidence that it was Emory Cobb Andrews.

But very, very, very, very likely.

mam

We only know he played a whole lot of instruments (search for "emory cobb andrews") :) I think the occurrence of "E. C. Andrews" in the bankruptcy files is a false lead. We know who this Andrews was and what he did and it is not in any way unexpected that he had business with McK...

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E. C. Andrews is Emory Cobb Andrews who was a chemist and worked for (among others) Philip Ruxton and specialized in ink and its application. He must have been highly skilled since he wrote serialized articles later turned into books on the subject: "Color and its distribution in printing. How ...

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I've found the following seven occurrences of Andrews in the bankruptcy files, with page numbers in the Lybrary PDF in parentheses: E. C. Andrews (where handwritten "C" replaces typed "B".) (p. 131) E. C. Andrews (p. 139) E. C. Andrews (p. 149) E. C. Andrews (p. 150) E. C. Andrew...

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